Are these auto downvote trails hurting HIVE?? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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I just noticed this gang of downvoters singling out one account on HIVE, so it's time to point them out.

When I confronted them, most had some lame excuse, it seemed they were just blindly downvoting because they are part of a downvoting curation trail???? To me that is a bad answer, so I'm just going to use my flags on these voters from now on. I was threatened by this group already too. One of these "bad guys", @antisocialist even tried to extort me, he threatening to have all my rewards taken away too. So I don't expect to make anything here on HIVE any more for being the whistleblower, but that just goes to prove that the current system on HIVE is broken and centralized, controlled by this actual group. I don't like it one bit, and I don't think most users ever understand what they are voting for when they support these accounts. Hopefully you all find this post and figure out the truth. If you just ignore the problem, then you are part of the problem too. Occasionally I will flag anyone at random that votes for these creeps, and if I get you don't come crying to me.

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These accounts are all the skumbags of HIVE. Everyone here should boycott them, and even downvote them too. HIVE has problems, and these accounts are the source. I undelegated my HIVE so I can flag these fools better next week, hope more accounts here will flag them too and try to send them a message that their bad behavior has gone on way too long. Whatever @lasseehlers did in the past shouldn't matter any more. I saw the video in the post he made, and it was not hurting anyone, if anything it was just teaching newcomers about Blockchain.

Their reason aren't very good. @enforcer's reason is simply that lapse is annoying?

If he's annoying then be a grown pop and ignore him.

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Here is the list of bad HIVE actors!

These accounts below are the true fraudsters are abusing the HIVE eco-system, and should be stopped. Pleas do not give them any upvotes because they all deserve a downvote curation of their own.

@freebornangel

@ava77

@chicoduro

@freebornsociety

@nathanpieters

@manniman

@penderis

@chekohler

@melbourneswest

@antisocialist

@enforcer48

@themarkymark



Follow @coininstant for more!



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@lasseehlers is being flagged because he is shilling a coin he artificially sets the price and lies to people saying it is going up 20% a day. He is a fraud. Almost every post or comment he makes is to promote his shit coin and I’m not going to waste my time figuring out which ones are and which one aren’t so I just flag everything.

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I know you are busy mark but I could personally attest that all of the accounts he listed, or at least 80% of them are managed by humans and are not bots or negative influences.


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I know most of them, none of them are bots, not that I would have a problem with it as they are following downvote trails of known abuse fighters.

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Hell, 3 of them are me.
And 2 of them have very little stake in them.
Their votes are dust.

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It's just a hive-engine coin, I don't see why his is any worse than anyone elses. At least his "artificial" bids are real money we have the option to sell for. There is nothing wrong with the owner buying up his supply, stocks do that all the time, it's called buybacks. He's not a fraud, he's a nice guy. Him and I are not even friends, he doesn't do anything for me, I just noticed that he has been heavily abused for so many years and thought I'd try to help. This same thing happened to me and I didn't like it and wish someone else would have tried to help me out on steem. Do I'm doing unto others as I would have wanted them to do for me. This whole downvote curation trail thing should go, you know better than just putting someone in a robot and carpet downvoting everything they do, that is just plain wrong.

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He is saying his coin is going up 20% a day when it isn't, he is just pumping it to get suckers. It's illegal in the US and what he has is a security. It is unethical.

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Marky you are brainwashed and delusional, never in my life have I scammed or defrauded anybody. LasseCash is 100% legit, 100% transparent, just because you dont know what we know, then you think LasseCash is a fraud.

I dont care about your systematically downvotes, they are stupid and expose the problems with Hive since you even downloaded my 12 lessons on crypto currency. I am one of those who know most about crypto currency in the world and I educate the world about it and you downvote it with $25 value vote, this prove Hive's problems... LasseCash will succeed even more and more, people can go there, there are no stupid downvotes and price that goes up for the most part.

As a believer in free markets, it is so stupid when you say that I choose the price, anybody can buy and sell and the market knows everything, so the price the market set is the price of LasseCash.

That I do buy and sells too are 100% in line with anarcho capitalistic principals and free markets ideas, so stop your stupid comments and stupid downvotes or keep showing the world how stupid you are!

Peace, Lasse!

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I undelegated my HIVE so I can flag these fools better next week

Good. Less people that can misuse your HP. It's been going on for far too long anyway.

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Thats a bunch of people I have had good discussions with online, namely @antisocialist

@enforcer48 downvoted me the other day, do you see me blogging about it like some kind of child that didn't get enough attention from his parents before the age of 15?

I am so over this, I tried to start a good debate about what the downvote could be, but it appears that you need to be downvoted so more to think about how valueless a post is that contains public information than anyone could account for.

If you got downvoted by these accounts, most of which i consider online friends, it must have been with good reason, I have shit posted a couple of times a week for a while and have not got downvoted by them.

@melbourneswest is the nicest guy from Australia, or so his blog says, I have interacted with him many times. Not a bad influence at all either as you say.

Ill be waiting for day 7 to downvote this.


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I only disagreed with the day 6 comment voting thing.

Your posts are fine.

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Yeah I could see exactly what you down voted, I am always down to make big scene about downvotes, but yours seemed justified so I didn't question them

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I joined a DV trail. Dunno whats going on. Feel free to message me if you think it's incorrect.

Only recently joined as there was a significant increase of PoB shit posting and circle Jerking.

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If my shit posting didn't get flagged, this stuff must be so bad lol

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You don't seem to get it, has nothing to do whether any of you are nice or not, it's just cause you were on the list. I gonna flag you too because you're annoying me now by trying to defend them.

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You can take you $7 and fuck yourself with that attitude. Try investing some money out of your pocket into Hive before you come off with a smart ass remark like this.

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poisonphil, go take a chill pill diude and chillax, or better yet go take a poisonpill cause it rhymes with your name. haha

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I downvoted this because I’m being initiated into a downvote abuse gang.

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LETS GET FUCKING CRAZY IN HERE, show the carnal side of man on hive lol

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Lets go downvote an innocent civilian like in a real gang initiation lol!!!

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Why am I not in the list? oh wait, cuz my downvote mana was below 70% so I wasn't on the trail when the downvote triggered. Please include my name in the gang.

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70%?!
What are you saving it for?
They rarely go hard enough to shut off mine at 35%.
The way free flags are designed is that your vote value doesn't go down until you run out of downvote mana and start using real votes.
So, even back before the split when we flagged alot rarely did I get taken below 35%, 25% might be safe, I have another account set to that and haven't noticed any problems.
Unless you just want to do it manually.

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I do it manual and auto, below 70% is just dv mana meant to downvote cases I find that wasn't targeted by the trail first.

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Shut up bro, you blabber too much! haha

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Don't worry you'r gonna be on the list bitch. Bigger downvotes start next week. This is nothing yet, I will remember all you!!

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I just wiped a few of your posts because you flagged alot of mine for no reason.

I recently joined a DV curation trail because there was alot of abuse going on. I am not aware of all the posts being down voted and I trust the person I have given my vote to to act in good faith and I have no reason to believe the won't.

If you believe the flag is incorrect you're more than welcome to raise it with me and I'll have a look.

You spoke of Lesse, from what I am aware of he is running some questionable operations on Hive.

Thanks for the ping, hope this helps.

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I just noticed this gang of downvoters

Here is the problem, you come in and think you know something when clearly you just overlooked something that has existed for the last 3+ years, not that you would notice, clearly you don't uphold your responsibility to ensure that the inflation goes to high effort posts and not schemers just looking to dump for sats.

You don't have to help, it's just a nice to do.

singling out one account on HIVE

Not true.
There is a long history with this account.
This was not a single person with a personality conflict flagging, this was a group consensus.
If you want input on that, join this discord and contribute your perspective to the consensus.
Maybe you can convince those people that lasse is good people.

I didn't know what was happening, either.
I did know where to ask.

controlled by this actual group.

If 'this group' actually 'controlled' hive there a number of accounts that wouldn't be getting rewards, but they chug right along dumping hive to sats because you, and stakeholders like you, don't take the time to defend the pool against these attacks.
You just stack your easy vote selling money and show up from time to time trying to get some cheap attention.

Maybe you should join the efforts to make hive a better place before you go passing judgement on things you clearly know very little about?

I saw the video in the post he made

Lol, I'm sure you would be one of very few, the mute feature was coded with lasse, and a couple others, in mind.

If he's annoying then be a grown pop and ignore him.

Lasse kicked a hive that he knew was predisposed against him.
That has consequences.
Bees have stingers.

Just for the record, nobody will flag you just for flagging me.
Telling things how you see them rarely engenders support.
Certainly not in a place like this.

You are perfectly safe in choosing me as a target.
I won't even flag you back.
Enjoy whatever jollies you get from beating on somebody weaker than you.

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This has to be the most hypocritical post I have ever had tbe privielege of witnessing being posted, I recently wrote an article an refused to name you for your malicious downvotes on community engaement posts which can be read here https://www.proofofbrain.io/undefined/@jaxsonmurph/pob-community-can-t-we-all-just-get-along edited_20210622_040454.jpg
I actually didnt realise until afterwards that you actually downvoted a second article about every community needing a blockchain game.

All I can say is you reap what you sow, I am utterly ashamed that someone like you should be be given the power to maliciously downvote community engaement posts like you have and then try to claim the moral high ground shame on you, and those that support such nonsense

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@coininstant did that? Wow much hypocrisy. I wasn't as invested in this drama until he activated his dv trail on me which I have yet to take part of this drama. Guess now I got something to do then.

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Yep he has opened the eyes of many with that post, I held back knowing there would come a time, honestly I hoped I never had to use it but the sad fact is, once you start down that road there is no going back, for what reason or justification he had I will probably never known, but a community engagement post wasn't the one to attack. there is no honour in that..


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There's no honor here, just some man child lashing out like they never had sweet 16. I don't really get myself involved unless it's gross plagiarism and spam but few exceptions can be tossed if shits like @coininstant makes a scene and doubles it down.

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That's for sure, my point exactly for not questioning his downvotes, if it had of been something that was shitty I could understand but down voting a community engagement post is in itself going against the community is shitty, but hey hypocrites will be hypocrites I guess


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@coininstant aka. Nick needs to chill the moral high ground act :)

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I honrstly hope so, I wish nobody ill will, we should live and let live, time to heal is more important

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It's odd that he appears to be doing what he's complaining about. Hypocritical indeed.

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Yep its nice to see that speaking the truth about the @coininstant hypocrisy has frustrated him enough to go on a downvoting campaign like he was crying like a baby about.
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This has just proven what a hypocritcal coward he is and exposed the multiple accounts being used to do his bidding.

The funny thing is its that kind of childish behaviour, that will result in the kind of change people like that dont wanna see, because they will be challenged or worse.

If he thinks this will get me as frustrated as him or make me do what he is doing he is sorely mistaken and very very sad.

I do hope that everyone has now seen the cowards that those involved are

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It appears he as also liked some of my most recent comments at the same level. How odd. Complains about a behavior that he carries out.

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I don't think he realises the damage he is doing to his own account and yes it is odd that he liked some posts, very very strange Lol.

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By liked I meant disliked. Sorry. Ecency is weird with that -100% liked lol

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Easy mistake to make, I didn't realise it myself when I first noticed the minus, only when I checked back, he seems to have gone on a crazy campaign, still doing mine even now he's still at it but I'm not gonna pay anymore attention to his cowardly behaviour.

Seems like he attention emboldens him, maybe being ignored will have a more profound effect. Ha Ha


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The community will be able to do much more once things get official. At least on the pob side anyway.

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Yeah that will be a good thing, sometimes issue's like this tend to expose weaknesses that the community can then come together deal with, pob be with get stronger because of this so he is actually doing us all a huge favour. Lol

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He is a really bad person for sure today he also went in campain coming from nowhere downvoting all my posts to expel me from hive, and i didn't knew him before today. But to avoid this toxic social network because people like him i got the memo and power down to leave.

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@miguelportela please do not fall for his cowardace, this is a time to join forces and fight the childish behaviour of a deranged child.

Together we can be bigger that this, his power is very limited because he is attacking so many accounts.

Stand for the communities you believe in, believe me others are watching and he is being muted in large numbers.

Flag his childish behaviour and mute his account, very soon he will find nobody but his circle is any longer listening.


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Please don't leave Hive. πŸ₯Ί If you leave, then you gave exactly what the downvoter wanted. 😐

Take this !PIZZA and spend more time on Hive. πŸ•

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Lol get a life!

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You guys are really sad, Im done thats really childish and you tell me to get a life grow up

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There are no "guys".

Just his drug-induced lunacy with multiple accounts.

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I was beginning to notice that they all seemed to follower a similar pattern alright, but at least now he is being forced to expose those accounts as his Lol


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I got downvoted 100% by that user at https://peakd.com/@savvyplayer/taking-a-break-from-hosting-a-math-mini-contest-for-this-month-for-d-buzz, and 20% https://peakd.com/@savvyplayer/i-really-don-t-understand#@savvyplayer/re-ahmadmangazap-2021627t174943665z enough to wipe out its pending payout reward. I never remembered interacting with that user.

@ahmadmangazap, I found the answers I was looking for. The downvoter on my posts started a flag war, and I think I just got "hit" even though I had nothing to do with the war.

@adamada might find this relevant.

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It's not even a war if its just one sided slaughter. Or just a man child vs a mob. Best not to cry over lost rewards and pretend it wasn't upvoted in the first place as nothing is yours before the 7 day payout.

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I am fully aware that pending payouts are not yet actual rewards. I generally value engagement (meaningful comments) more than the rewards, but in this case I got neither.

Thanks for your reply. You might want a !PIZZA.

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Thanks, Nick just wants to be a dick and throws a tantrum.

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That's the way I look at it too if it were to happen to me. I still think I'll be slightly depressed though.

@adamada @savvyplayer

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According to one of the comments of the downvoter, "it is the thought that counts", so even a tiny upvote or downvote "means a lot" to them.

Thanks for the mention.

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Yeah more like a one sided bitch slap than a flag war Lol, I wouldnt worry too much most of the time accounts that randomly attack others for no reason have very little too do.

I find it best to just ignore them and move on


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I undelegated my HIVE so I can flag these fools better next week

Practically speaking, you should keep the delegations as they are earning you something. Reclaiming your HP back just to flag wont do anything unless you crave some kind of temporary satisfaction. I thought you were on the loopy juice or something, I know you go through these phases of being crazy.

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@coininstant , Can you please give me one good reason that i should get downvoted by you...Did i do anything wrong..? I 'am here from the beginning of Steemit and still here writing myanmar language contents .... all are original contents... If i made this platform dirty , please let me know.. i will change it or not do that again..

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Here are a bunch of reasons. I already told you your blog looks spammy because u use the same old thumbnail over and over. I do same for the microscope guy. Also I can'r read it. Flagged!!!!!

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You can't read it because it is myanmar font , if you want to read my post go and install myanmar font. check at Hive-Myanmar community . All the content were writing in Myanmar language . At least try google translate.

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Every good person can just use LasseCash, there I am the leader and will resolve any dispute or drama, for over two years we only had one woman making drama for one day then she disappeared, Hive is full of drama in comparison.

Come to LasseCash, we are up in price most of the time too!

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There is no drama because no one cares

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No there is no drama on LasseCash because everyone knows that if they make drama the leader will step in and flag the shit out of them.

Now get it into your head, I dont want your stupid ass comments all over the place, there is no way (that I am aware of) to exclude your comments from my Ginabot, so just stop commenting, you are disturbing me, I told you many times now!

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Exactly, nobody knows or cares about hive. haha HIVE to 0 soon!

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You are adorable when you have your temper tantrums.

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Thanks. I might, only problem is it's linked up to this clown circus chain HIVE. Maybe lassecash should migrate to a new chain like ATOM or something. lol

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No Hive DPOS function very well, its just the POB part of Hive that is messed up, they have no power on LasseCash its ironic... @themarkymark has zero power on LasseCash no matter how much money he got.

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For sure, thanks again! I will check out the front end for my next posts. I remember that woman, that was what caused all the trouble and everyone started flagging. Nothing even happened, it was so bizarre.


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Maybe I was mistaken when I initially responded to you. So, were you on a downvote campaign against the community? I'm trying to understand this scenario.

You're now complaining about a downvote campaign against yourself? Why do they need to be stopped? Are they right or wrong for DV'ing you? How is what they're doing different from what you're doing?

You can't defend the right to downvote someone and then complain when someone exercises that right, of course, unless the votes are malicious. There's a wide range of acceptance when it comes to whether an UV or DV are malicious at this time.


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Who are you, you don't even post?? I'm not complaining about nothing. Was just pointing out some big time losers. You obviously are one of them too.

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The word hypocrite springs to mind. You should be on this list mate.!

You just gave me my first ever down vote here on hive for absolutely nothing.!!

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Not for nothing, quit posting spam, that ugly thumbnail over and over. That is why!!
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Yeah right ! You also down voted a post about growing weed and a splinter lands weekly battle challenge for nothing.

What are you 12 ?

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Cause I quit weed because it was hindering my breathing at night. Ever since then my lungs are pure gold! Sometimes I flag weed, no big deal. I used to smoke a ton, but I changed. It was just a flag in the heat of the moment. Your attitude is way uncalled for, calling people names an harassing them from a flag. Flags are part of the system here which you agreed to in the terms of service, so no use crying over spilled milk.

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Oh yeah the splinterlands flag was for having a Leo or a cub image on it, if I recall correctly) that is all. I despise both of them, Leo was the worst to me, I carry a grudge. I think that was why. I have nothing against spliterlands. I have real reasons for all my flags.

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Arent you the one downvoting me for absolutely no reason?
My posts are neither overrewarded nor have i ever had any contact with you to assume retaliatory behavior is at play.

Im not someone that minds downvotes but im always at awe when someone, like you in this case, is inviting them.

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No I'm not. I hardly ever downvoted you, and if there was one or two, is it really worth mentioning? I have reasons. what I was talking about was them brainlessly using a trail to follow each other like sheep downvoting my friend. Every downvote I do is manual, that is the difference. Downvoting is part of our thing here, why do you all have to get so mad about a penny here or there?
There you go I threw you a few downvotes just for interacting in an accusatory manner! I had disagreements with your rewards. Leave me alone please.

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Lol. I seriously dont care about your downvotes. Im just saying that youve been acting like a dipshit downvoting others yet you accuse the same of those that downvote you.

I dont know or care what this is about. When I see Marky downvote anyone, i see a witness thats pretending to do something to justify his witness position while not contributing much of anything.

We have a saying where i live:

An idle priest will start baptizing goats.

That being said, when ever i see Marky committed to something, i presume its stupid and a waste of time. And youre inviting stupid, acting stupid and wasting everyones time.
You call out people and they pile on you while you know what they have an issue with.

Again, i dont know or care whats going on. Just the same as i told @kingscrown. Talk to these people.
Adjust your behavior otherwise they get a easy target and youre left in a position where no one will help you.
Theres plenty other ways to make money here.
Dont let witnesses like Marky put you on a list where he can pretend to do actual work while hes doing jack shit.

BE SMART.

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Enough I was just standing up for what I thought was right. They should not be using that downvote tool to single out one or two people for no reason. So I downvoted certain kinds of posts even before that, like binance posts, steem posts, some cub and Leo posts, that is my prerogative. I don't join a downvote auto de-curation trail, at least I do it manually. If they yell at me I will yell back, I'm not behaving bad. I am making money here curating on the good posts.

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I dont care whats going on. I really dont. Whos right whos wrong. Who standing up for what. Its all internal bullshit and a waste of time that could be spent doing actual work.

See what the problem is. Adjust.

Ill talk to @enforcer48 you mentioned here in caps, if youre willing to listen to his issues and you want to find a common ground.
Let me know.

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Seems to me you were connected to the group that causes a lot of trouble around here. Don't worry I ain't gonna bother you any more.

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thank you very much for the exchange,have a good day and a great mood

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lol i follow a downvote trail but feel free to take the rewards off my posts if it makes you feel better

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OK I will. You are too lazy to downvote yourself, I thought you had a brain, use it. Why u gotta be a macho man, just go downvote stuff on your own. Lasse didn't do anything to you, he is just like you? Do whatever you want, I am flagging all of you that are in that group, that's all. Whenever you stop, I stop. You are only hurting yourself now, it's gonna cost you more than it's worth. Following a downvote trail is bad for HIVE, bad for crypto, unless you actually know what you are doing, which obviously you don not!

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I’m not particularly tired to the arbitrary flow of the tokens they can go to far better people than me lol! Have at it mate, I can’t be arsed

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Fine, I will shift them around, when I have time. Thanks for your contribution to HIVE in that regard then.

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How he can complain if he does much worst... and even jokes that is a fration of a peny...

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