Scrambling to Find Something To Send on ListNerds

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Dear Fellow Nerds,

From most feedback I've heard, people using ListNerds have been generally pleased using the service to discover new content. In my mind, I'm still in the "wait and see" mode, but there has been some very encouraging developments since I joined.

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List Nerds?

For those unfamiliar with ListNerds, it's a content discovery platform. Members promote content, various products and interesting links. Every click rewards you with MAIL credits to promote whatever content you want to share! Many HIVE bloggers have been promoting their content and being rewarded both with more visitors and with LISTNERD tokens as MAILS are upvoted!

My Nerd Adventure

I jumped in feet first, signing up immediately for enterprise, after seeing the enthusiasm and success of @bradlyarrow, without really knowing what I was getting myself into. The first month was rough, but I decided to give it another go. The second month was way better, suddenly finding myself in the top 10 LISTNERD STAKE holders. Here I am again in my third month, still attempting to maximize my investment.

With the Enterprise subscription active, there's skin in the game. Having prepaid about $3.25/day USD for the month, there's some pressure to utilize what was purchased. While you don't HAVE to send out two mails per day, if it's already paid for, you'd better use it! So in my mind, yes I HAVE to send out two MAILS per day. I've already invested almost $300 USD into List Nerds - for the traffic, the interactions and to acquire a large LISTNERDS stake.

If I don't maximize the investment, I'm loosing my investment.

Building A Good Name

HIVE (and listnerds by extension) is always about building a name and a reputation. The original "steemit" was short for esteem - being rewarded for having good esteem among other bloggers. HIVE is built on the exact same model: building good esteem among curators.

The idea is to post enough good content and quality interactions that when a user sees the handle @ironshield they don't think "oh, THAT guy, I don't like THAT guy, THAT guy wastes my time with garbage content" or "THAT guy has such a bad attitude" or "what a stingy guy, only upvoting 10% on my comments."

I make it a point to do the opposite of all that. I want my name to invoke positive thoughts, like "Oh that guy, let's see what he has to say today" or "always curious what that guy is thinking today" or "I like this guy's attitude" or "this guy votes 100% on every comment!" or "this guy rewarded my comment with free tokens!"

I'm not perfect, my "brand" is not for everyone. I don't expect everyone to like me. No doubt I will eventually offend someone. But my goal is that my content is enjoyable for a large general audience and worthy of being curated.

I don't want to waste people's time.

Back to List Nerds

So back to ListNerds. It's easy to get people to open your email and click on your link, but for someone to take the time to VALIDATE (upvote) your mail on ListNerds takes something special.

I want YOU to discover good content. Or if you find my content boring at the very least, I want you to discover REWARDING content. I don't mind sending you off the chain, but I'd prefer sending you to a place were (if you leave a comment) I can reward YOU with some tokens and an upvote!

But most of all, I do not want to damage my name by directing you from ListNerds (dear fellow nerds) to one of my short daily blogs that is not worthy of your attention.

What Am I Getting At?

I put a lot of pressure on myself to get two MAILS out per day on ListNerds and sometimes I do scramble to find something to send. But I don't want to waste your time, or my time.

All of this is set up to ask you, my nerdy readers, for your opinion. Specifically those of you who clicked here from ListNerds.

Is it worth validating (upvoting) a listnerd mail linked to a daily blog? Is it more valuable to you being sent off chain or to another HIVE user's content?

Let me know in the comments below!


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Benjamin Turner: God fearer. Rooted in Messiah. Husband of @lturner. Father of six wonderful children. The guy behind the camera. Blockchain enthusiast.

Bless the Most High!

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You know what's funny, well, maybe not funny, but most definitely interesting is that I upvote all of the content and validate the emails of Listnerders and Hive bloggers who I know to be people of exhibited good character.

Creating content is hard. Not everything is an absolute gem of creation. I too have Enterprise, and I also feel the pressure to get out two emails a day. But here's the thing, I refuse to make and post bovine fecal matter posts, so, at my current rate of content production (4-5 posts a week) plus my almost six years of posts to choose from, I am still only getting out one email a day on average with a couple of two emails a day thrown in there.

That said, I am not sad about it, because all the hard work is paying off, but I hear ya on wanting more input from Listnerd users.

And to directly answer your question, I prefer being sent to blog posts first, off chain products second. And I always love being directed to another blogger's content.

You are doing a great job, and your desire to learn and produce a better experience for your readers makes me smile. Just know that even if I don't always comment on your posts you are still getting my validation votes because you (and your family) are awesome!

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I upvote all of the content and validate the emails of Listnerders and Hive bloggers who I know to be people of exhibited good character.

I really appreciate this insight, since this is often how I base my UV's as well. I'm not alone in this!

I prefer being sent to blog posts first, off chain products second.

Thank you for the direct answer! I also prefer it's within the seven day window so I can chip in my upvote! I'm not against anyone reposting previous content for rewards - I feel it's only fair, but I know other people disagree.

you are still getting my validation votes because you (and your family) are awesome!

This made me almost fall out of my chair! What a compliment, THANKYOU!!!!

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Interesting question, Benjamin. I am okay with being sent off-chain for interesting content but I of course prefer it to be on Hive so I can reward and be rewarded. I have mixed feelings about curation posts. I understand that we sometimes come across great content that we want to share, but I do not like when the only thing someone mails about is other people's content and never their own. I am still trying to work that one out.

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This coming from #1 (or #2) in the LN richlist, your insight is extremely valuable to me. Thank you.

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Listnerds is a great way to find cool new content, still I choose to not go for 2 emails a day for now, as I want to only share my content and even then only the posts that I think are worth the share. I know I am leaving some money on the table this way, but this feels like the way to use Listnerds for me.
Having said that, I don´t mind people posting two email, but often I see them scrambling as you pointed out very well. Thanks interesting post !CTP

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I want to only share my content

This is sort of my feeling too, I enjoy promoting other HIVIANS, but primarily LN is a way to share my daily blog.

Very much appreciate your perspective!

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Great and thoughtful post Benjamin. I prefer your daily blog posts first but if there are some interesting other posts you would like to share, this would be ok for me too.

Have a great weekend.
!ALIVE
!CTP

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I'm glad you're enjoying the daily blog and my externalization of thoughts in this post. I hope your weekend is supreme!

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If what you refer to us on Listnerds that is not yours is of the same quality of what you refer of your own work, it wouldn't make any difference to me! I would prefer to see other Hive members' work first because we can all bless them directly, but, if you;ve got something interesting from somewhere else, cool!

But also, consider this: the math does not require you to use all emails every day to make good use of your subscription. You would have repaid yourself with profit with one verified email a month. That's it. Everything else is just a blessing, a blessing to large multiples that can be divided by two without missing anything.

Also, remember what your profile caption says: you are the bearer of the LIGHT YOKE, sir. We were not led to ListNerds to put ourselves in bondage to it. He Whose yoke is easy and burden is light does not intend that ... and that is how I keep myself from worrying about how many posts per day. His sheep hear His voice ... so you can ask for guidance.

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the math does not require you to use all emails every day to make good use of your subscription. You would have repaid yourself with profit with one verified email a month.

I should look into the mechanics, I thought two mails per day would double the reward, but if it doesn't, I should focus more energy into one post per day.

The bearer of the LIGHT YOKE, sir. We were not led to ListNerds to put ourselves in bondage to it

Thank you for this reminder, if something is becoming burdensome, it is good to look at it closely to see if it enhances HIS walk or detracts from HIS walk. The priority is HIM. Bless HIS Holy Name!

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Two mails per day DOES increase the reward, but sometimes not exactly double ... but CONSIDER: even with Hive hovering around 50 cents, a SINGLE Listnerds verified email in USD is rewarded roughly in Listnerds token what it is in HBD -- that is, very near to the actual dollar amount.

  1. Assume 100 Listnerds per verified email.
  2. Each verified email is worth around 100 Listnerds token (sometimes quite a bit more)
  3. Each Listnerds is worth 2 Hive
  4. Hive is worth around fifty cents USD
  5. Each Listnerd is worth $1.00 as long as that is the case
  6. SO: each verified email is worth around $100

Your Enterprise subscription is worth $97 -- so, ONE verified email this month has paid for it.

Not only that. As long as Hive stays around fifty cents, and you post ONCE per day, you still would be collecting Listnerds worth $3,000 a month. Let Hive go back to ten cents, and you would still have around $600. Let Hive go back to $1, and you would have around $6,000. That's the power of one post per day, not even accounting for the compounding effects of them being staked up.

OF COURSE, if you can do two posts per day, GREAT -- double your Listnerds! But you don't need to stress yourself out trying to do that when consistency on ONE, every day of the month, is such an opportunity (don't let Hive hit $2 or $5 someday, with each Listnerd being worth two of them). Do two when you can, which may be quite often. Do ZERO if you need to on a particular day, and don't worry about it. It's a Proverbs 3:5-6/Galatians 5:16 kind of deal!

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Happy that you give yourself another chance and now you seem to be active in listnerds. Upvote you in hive and on listnerds. You deserve it.

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From what I've experienced as only a premium user of listnerds, it is well worth the upgrade. I did a piece on upgrading in listnerds not so long ago. My intentions is to upgrade but only to business because after seeing what I can make by sending mail 2 to 3 times a week, the upgrade is well worth it.
If you're not ready or the larger package is not making you a sizeable return, you could always downgrade to business.
The reason for me only going to business is the fact that I know I'm not ready for twice a day mailings. I don't want to be scrambling for content or finding valuable things to promote.
As you have the package though you could always set up regular emails using the auto send feature and then send 1 email manually on a daily basis. That would be 2 mails per day and less scrambling.

!CTP

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I know I'm not ready for twice a day mailings. I don't want to be scrambling for content or finding valuable things to promote.

This is very wise to consider, like I said I jumped in before really counting the cost. Thank you for your comment, it's appreciated!

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Well you did get a good deal which is all the more reason to take it when it's offered.

!CTP

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Thanks for helping me figure out my criteria for upvoting emails on ListNerds. Though I prefer a post made by the sender himself, there are times that I am making an exception just if the content is something new, very interesting, and the author really exerted effort in writing.

I also prefer articles published on Hive.

Another consideration I make is if the article is written by someone new either on Hive or on ListNerds.

I think the last criterion is more subjective. Though I am open to all kinds of content, I prefer articles that promote what we call "common grace" in theology. Typical examples of this include something that exhibits truth, something that affirms both order and liberty, something beautiful that we see in the world, something that demonstrates special gifts and talents, some insights from science, technology, art, and other fields of learning, some spiritual aspirations, and something that promotes a virtuous life.

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Thanks for helping me figure out my criteria for upvoting emails on ListNerds.

If anything, it gets us thinking about how we think! While it's good to go on instinct, it may also be useful to have defined criteria.

Your description of "common grace" is fascinating, I enjoy all of these things also, especially the promotion of living a virtuous life.

Thank you for offering your insight.

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I want to be THAT guy...uhm gal hehe. The good one!
Now, there are a handful of people who's name I already knew before the whole Listnerds
thing became a thing (you're one of them), and I enjoyed their posts before that.
So it's natural to want to keep supporting those people, whether on Hive or on Listnerds, preferably both. I buy a few hundred of CTP tokens each week so I can vote for all the posts I like, and the group is growing!

Personally, I like the Listnerds mails that bring me to Hive posts.
Why? Because there is a big chance that otherwise, I wouldn't read all of the content I am reading now. I may have you in my feed on Hive but it doesn't mean I read it all.
And at the same time, it's harder to find new creators, with new content because I am not always looking for it on Hive.
That's the great thing about Listnerds, it brings me both: content from people I know, and from those who just arrived.

And yeah, it's hard work! I feel ya! I think the same, I want to make my investment worth my while so I want to send two mails a day. I don't always succeed but I'm trying my hardest to. As a single mom with 4 kiddos, it's hard at times, but in the back of my mind I just remember that I do it all for them. But yeah, you would know everything about juggling 'work' and a family hehe. And you're doing an awesome job at it!

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Yes, if I see names on ListNerds that I recognize, I'm much more likely to validate their mail. I find myself voting based on name even more than specific quality - if I know that quality is generally good and I'm fond of their personality and blogs.

As a single mom with 4 kiddos, it's hard at times,

You amaze me. I know what it takes to run a family being home most of the time, I couldn't imagine doing it single, whew, I'm sweating just thinking about it!

Thanks for the comment, it's conversations like these that make the HIVE world a thing and not just some crypto investment.

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You amaze me. I know what it takes to run a family being home most of the time, I couldn't imagine doing it single, whew, I'm sweating just thinking about it!

Thank you!I do sweat a lot more since we've moved to Mexico lol.

it's conversations like these that make the HIVE world a thing and not just some crypto investment.

I couldn't agree more. It also makes the difference between Hive and other platforms, like Facebook, where people don't seem to be capable of having normal conversations anymore.
It's always good to be here and see what everyone is up to.

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I believe you've had quite enough answers to your questions, lol.

Not all content needs to be long-form content. We all have busy lives and you can write whatever you please. The only thing is that with shorter form content, curators serving larger voters such as Curie and OCD, will likely skim past it. The platform has always been known for rewarding effort.

As for directing people to someone else's content, I feel that doing this is great, as long as it's not overdone. I, personally, only send people to others content with their knowledge. It's a great way for ListNerds users and Hiveans to increase their reach and engagement.

!CTP

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Blogging over the past five years, my content doesn't attract curie or ocd much, but for me it's more about consistency and not wasting people's time. I want my posts to only take my readers a few minutes, they can UV or not, rehive or not, comment or not - just so long as it doesn't take up too much of their valuable time.

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Each to their own, right?

Some people enjoy reading longer-form content. For me, the sweet spot is between 500 - 1000 words. I enjoy reading a good story, so I'm happy to invest time reading something enjoyable.
!CTP

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Hi @ironshield - good questions!

It looks like in searching for a topic you successfully hit on the idea of blogging about searching for a topic! Nice!

First, keep in mind that clicking the link inside Listnerds mails earns us mailing credits whether or not we like what we are sent to, and since the page we are sent to opens in a separate tab, I personally don't feel it's a big deal if I've been sent to something that's not for me.

Is it worth validating (upvoting) a listnerd mail linked to a daily blog?

Those are the ones I am most likely to validate if I like the content. (If the content is solid but not for me I'll either validate it in appreciation of the effort put in, or abstain from voting.)

Also, it gives me an opportunity to post a comment and upvote the blog post on Hive if I have time.

Is it more valuable to you being sent off chain or to another HIVE user's content?

I'd rather be sent to another Hive user's content, but I want to see good value, learn something, or discover an interesting content creator.

(Just now I was sent to a Hive blog post that was nothing more than a cat photo and I felt the Listnerds member was simply trying to get some upvotes and LISTNERDS without offering any value so I downvoted that particular mail.)

The posts that I'm most likely to downvote are "join this program" posts, especially the "zombie mails" that are repeatedly sent on autopilot!

I don't mind people posting their opt-in forms, however, especially when sending solo mails - I do that myself.

Finally, as an Enterprise member, it's nice to post two mails a day but I don't force it. On days when I publish a blog post I'll promote that, and then for my second mail I'll promote something by somebody else, especially someone posting on the justonething community, or something by someone whose project I'm supporting.

All the best,

DH

!CTP

!ALIVE

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Ha, when I don't know what to blog about, I blog about not knowing what to blog about! !LOLZ

it's nice to post two mails a day but I don't force it.

I think this is good advice. Better posting one quality link, rather than two that are a bit 'forced'.

Thank you for your comment.

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Is it worth validating (upvoting) a listnerd mail linked to a daily blog? Is it more valuable to you being sent off chain or to another HIVE user's content?

It really depends on what each thing is.

I have read daily blogs that are really 30 words long once you take out the usual stuff they copy and I have read ones that are of quality and are actually long and you can see the effort in them. I have seen mails that lead to great business and I have seen those "Make 38 billions a day by signing up".

I mainly just upvote posts I like or see that effort went into them. I skip voting mediocre posts but downvote lazy content instantly, I think having those are an insult to people like you that they get upvoted the same rate you or anyone who work on their content would.

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Thank you for your comment. I appreciate the insight into how you validate on listnerds.

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I don't mind being sent off-chain for good content. I am not going to upvote anyone on ListNerds who sends me to someone else's content. I just read an email where I was sent to a single picture of a cat with 4 words of text. Needless to say, I didn't upvote the person I ListNerds.

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a single picture of a cat with 4 words of text.

You're the second to mention this, I somehow missed the cat post... I can't imagine it's doing that well. Unless the cat is doing something outrageously funny or something.

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The same post can be upvoted in Listnerds and Hive. It is not easy knwoing what is like but to each his own. Your followers will appreciate you nevertheless.

I found you via listnerds

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Thanks for visiting from listnerds, I hope my followers appreciate me and my content.. at least somewhat! Thanks for the comment!

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