Let There Be Light

You're now tuned in to electrical theory 101. I'm your instructor, @DanDays - The Luckiest Guy I Know. Today we'll address H20 and its significant role in hydroelectric generation and energy storage. If you ever wanted to know how rain makes your house glow at night, welcome! I'll explain it in a way even you understand.

Moisture collects in the air, right? Heat and steam rise yata yata—precipitation. It collects above our heads forming clouds until those clouds are too heavy and are forced to release the water. What goes up must come down and a river is formed.

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Rivers naturally create isolated sections capable of generating energy. Waterfalls for example can distribute a lot of force. Unless that force is funneled and controlled however, regardless of its height or mass, the majority of potential is lost due to the elements: temperature, wind, overspray, etc.

Generation

Constructing a wall like Melton Hill Dam in Lenoir City, Tennessee, between two accessible points on a river creates a lake or reservoir restricting the flow of water. Once the river is pooled and confined, the height and mass of the waterfall can be controlled. A controlled waterfall capable of forcing tens of thousands of gallons of water per second is capable of turning anything designed to rotate.

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Before the September 11th attacks in New York City, anyone could walk, drive, pedal across dams, most were considered roadways. You could stop along the way and take as many photos as you'd like, too, no questions asked. Not anymore. Now there's fences and signage restricting access to all of the nations dams and controlled waterways. You don't want to get caught paying too much attention to generation systems or anything associated to infrastructure in the US anymore.

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That's Melton Hill Dam, what it looks like on the surface. It's a 3-unit generation system, I'll explain why we know that in a minute. Melton is a hydroelectric generation station which means rather than coal or steam, they use gravity and water, the simplest and least expensive sources to produce and provide electricity.

Located on the main floor of the dam will be a control room. Inside the control room will be everything from light switches and control boards to a direct phone line to the White House. The people responsible for surveying and maintaining the system from inside that control room are called operators. Operators communicate directly with Load Dispatchers.

It's the Load Dispatchers responsibility to clear equipment danger and personnel proximity at both receiving stations on either side of Melton Dam prior to energizing or de energizing the dam.

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Beginning at or near the surface of Melton Lake and extending (according to Wikipedia) 103 feet under the control room floor are three penstocks—one per unit. Penstocks are those big pipes you see running up and down mountains. As the length of those pipes reach their target, they're funneled in diameter from let's say 50 feet all the way down to about 2 feet creating water pressure powerful enough to energize an entire city's electrical grid.

The three targets are called turbines. Regardless of source; coal, steam, wind or gravity, their concept is identical—rotate 360 degrees with or without mechanical assistance. The only difference is the design. Wind turbines like you see along roadways or in the middle of the ocean are propellers because they're wind generated.

Water generated turbines look more like a paddle wheel you see on the back of old river boats. They're massive and designed specifically to deflect water which causes the turbine to rotate in the same direction as the forced water at too many revolutions to count per second.

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Inside the head of those turbines are gears and rotors and bearings and all kinds of components designed to assist a solid, stainless steel cylinder called a shaft as it spins freely. I've constructed and decommissioned hydroelectric units with shafts as big around as a 757 fuselage—transported in sections on five or six semi trucks.

Affixed and balanced to the outer center of the shaft is an armature. Armatures consist of a conductive metal like copper or aluminum wound tightly around the outer center in tight wraps hundreds and thousands of times. Bordering the armature are brushes, their purpose is to confine the energy to the center—brush it back. The armature spins against stationary windings with an adjustable gap between the two surfaces and, as revolutions cycle, inductance is created.

Inductance and inductive reactance, kinetic energy, all of it increasingly builds in those stationary windings until the unit is de energized. The faster it spins, the more it builds. As all of that energy is confined, refined and redistributed, what began as water now creates anywhere between 12 and 500 thousand volts.

Voltage is then routed to a nearby converter station or switchyard where before it's branched out to your community, it's transformed and regulated. Private residences won't survive 500,000 volts, 500kv is for distribution. Stateside homes are rated at 240 volts.

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There's both step-up and step-down transformers. A hydroelectric system requires stepping down. From the switchyard to the receiving station in your neighborhood to the transformer on the pole at the end of your driveway, power lines are continuously stepping down to accommodate 240 volts.

From the pole at the driveway to the panel on the side of your home, through each interior wall, on the ceiling, under the counter, behind the television and everywhere else—energy. Tada! Plug in your hair dryer.

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On the backside of the dam continues 300 miles of Clinch River. When the station is generating and spinning turbines, the turbine enclosure in use or two or all three will open like a garage door allowing the lake to empty into the river causing it to rise dangerously quick.

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Between 10am and 7pm when energy rates are at their peak price, Melton Hills will roll up the doors and open their water valves to max capacity. It's still gravity fed, costs Melton nothing to open the doors and generate when the consumer is contracted to pay premium fees.

Storage

After the sun goes down and the neighborhood's ready to call it a day; lights are out, businesses closed for the night, energy prices are at their lowest. This is the same time the lake level is at its lowest and the river at its highest.

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Melton Hills will reverse the turbines during these hours—cheapest rates. They're no longer gravity fed from the lake, now they're mechanical. They'll run those turbines backwards drawing the river water back into the lake above until it rises to capacity. Now it's energy being stored as water.

The following day when energy rates are at peak pricing again, they open the gates again and allow gravity to generate more revenue again. The cycle repeats 24/7 - 365, no holidays or breaks, generate generate generate around the clock because we got phones to charge and alarms to set, microwaves and curling irons to heat stuff up. Lights and porch lights, refrigerator lights and night lights to light stuff up. Water heaters, pressure washers, dishwashers and vanity's to clean stuff up and helicopter communications.

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Dude these are the prettiest pictures of electricity generation I've ever seen.

That last picture though - hmmm that just looks like an accident waiting to happen.

Hope you are keeping well.
Cheers

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Hey this is a nice surprise, Hi! I dig the new profile image.

Glad you liked them, this time of year it's tough to take a bad shot. If only clouds would leave more often like they are today. Gonna be some good ones today. =}

Yeah linemen aren't crazy! That's from Adelanto, California. My job during those times is to observe safety equipment and personnel. Makes me nauseous snapping photos.

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Who knew I could surprise people occasionally lol. Thanks.

I get it, sometimes you just go out there and it all lines up. Nice when it goes that way.
Yes I can understand the nausea when you're watching that go down (oh god that's a horrible pun). How exactly do you do health and safety when they're all the way up THEEEEERRRREEEE?

Have a good one bud.
Cheers

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Spend as long as it takes before hand so everyone involved has a clear understand of their task. Test communications, little things. De energize everything below in case something drops or falls, tape off the area so personnel can't enter.

Surprising right? There's a lot of steps that have to be followed to make sure eve try one goes home they way they showed up.

Yeah.. profile pic, me likey. ;-)

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I remember Health & Safety from my days in conservation. I don't think it was nearly as complicated as what you do although dealing with wild animals - that adds a bit of unpredictability to the mix. Strangely in the time that I was there - the only death that happened was not from a wild animal, it was from stupidity and the lack of management implementing the correct H&S measures for vehicles 🙄

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I'm surprised you understand that handful of typos.

That's me, the stuff we naturally become complacent toward because we're human, those are the thing I remind everyone to focus on.

I remember that hippo you guys removed from the channel that ended unexpectedly. Your job is intense. Nuts.

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Wait until he takes you with him, that's a whole new special experience.

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I'm okay thanks, I'm happy to decline that - feel free to take my place Nine.

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generate more revenue again

Shocking, isn't it? Does make for fun whitewater rafting/kayaking though.

I've always had mixed feelings about the TVA...electricity is great but there was plenty that come with it that wasn't so great. Ever hear about this hydroelectric dam in Italy that was such a colossal fuckup that it generated a megatsunami?

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Shocking indeed!

Oh for sure. Not just that one, there's been several catastrophic builds. Typically during annual refreshers they like to remind us of past mistakes and current deaths and we discuss how to avoid repeating it.

Not sure why so many people believe we historically get anything right on the first try.

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Or even the second or third try... Lol, I was just explaining fracture critical bridges and how we have thousands of them just the other day.

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For sure. You've heard expansion joint yeah? Parking garages, buildings, any structure standing pretty much on the west coast has an expansion joint every 100'ish feet. For when the earth rolls and stuff. Skyscrapers are all built on air ride nowadays, spring support is obsolete. Bridges are another structure that require a designed collapse method in case of an emergency like, well, earth rolling. Things like that dude are typically foe earthquake preparedness.

Thanks for the reblog Jethro.

Speaking of cracks and first times, not to be confused with Millenium Tower but the tallest building in The Bay cracks windows on occasion.

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Hey, we were damning it on Sunday, too. Just a different one. 😉

And that last picture definitely ain't Tennessee...

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Damned if you do!

Yeah not quite, what gave it away? That's an old one from back when I had to do that stuff rather than talk about it in. We were in Adelanto, California.

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I was wondering if you might be in that last one or taking it.

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Linemen are a different breed. They tie knots and eat a sandwich at the same time while dangling from a helicopter.

No injuries on my watch, Plants. Not one in 22 years. That one's special, I'm proud of that one. Pura didn't understand but has since been around many wiremen with me and they all attest, they'll initiate the conversation even. I'm the only one they know who's done that. 👊🏼

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That is pretty damn amazing. Did I ever tell you an old friend from my retail days lost her lineman husband on the job? It was a tough loss. Their son was only about 2 or 3 at the time. They got together after she and I stopped working together, so I never met him, but everything I saw about him pointed to a stand-up dude.

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Now you did.

That's horrible, I hate hearing those stories. It's a high risk profession. God bless'em.

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I know. He did have two older boys from his first marriage, and the youngest gets to see them often. Heartening to see the bond that they have as brothers that I'm sure helps them cope with such a tough loss.

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Yoooo! What's up man? I hear she's yanking you to one this weekend.

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Rivers directly contravene the Globe earth theory. I refuse to read a post that promotes this propaganda.

#lassecash

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Good thing I flattened out before the part about they all reach the ocean. #SayNo2Hearsay

Thanks Boom.

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We need more men of your calibre in this crazy world!

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So uh.. yeah, I uh... never assumed I'd attract save the fish people with this one. ?! First comedy and now this, you're right my man, CRAZY!

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The Fish people are everywhere, everywhere!

!PIZZA

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That was really interesting. Don't take too many photos though. they might think that you're staking our the joint.

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I'm glad you like it, Leaky. Thank you. I've been in and out of the smallest to biggest yards, I know they're trained to prevent people from doing things like take pictures and one personal vehicle was there. The shots of the switchyard, those were right down the street, I was in and out so quick! Nothin to see here...

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Were any cows harmed in the generation of this electrifying elevation and de-elevation of water levels? I don't see cows in any of the photos and I'm concerned about those sweet cows.

Pretty interesting post. I learned something new. I wonder how the fish feel too. Can you fish in there?

It was fun risking danger with you for some of those shots.

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I doubt it. Cows are notoriously mooooooving. Pretty cheesy eh? Watch me milk this one, like a stampede. Relax, I'm bullshitting like post grazing.

Yes, you can fish. Ski, boat, stuff like that. Many'0 scale hath sacrifice thine self for much less.

Thank you.

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Cheesy line without milking the cow and making cheese first. Maybe I was talking about beef cows and beefing up though.

If I got any more relaxed, I'd look like your skeleton trying to crawl into a window but the bones won't work.

How much does that lake drop and rise on average? The whole thing weirds me out for some reason. Think of the fishes. I guess I've gone green pusher here.

💖 Always a pleasure, never bored yet.

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...never bored yet.

Yes!!

Fish, sure. Unfortunately not a lot of people are willing to heat their water by candlelight so fish lose.

Good question. So many variables. Summer months vs winter months. Land mass, height of fall, very nice. The lake size is similar to one I'm real familiar with outside Castaic, north of LA, called Lake Berryessa. Max production that one will rise and fall about 10 feet.

I got in and out quick to snap those switchyard ones, nothin....

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Fish, fish, fish. Fish should never lose. I'm so craving fish. Why did I have to say fish? Forget fish unless I can eat some right now.

Wow, ten feet, that's a lot. I wouldn't want to hang too close to that lake at night.

In and out quick, isn't that your specialty? Frankly, really good shots of the switchyard...but you know I think that.

One more teensee question. What happens if the system there gets hacked?

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In and out quick, isn't that your specialty?

Depends what I'm doing.

You're not the only person to mention poor fishy in this one, I'm impressed. I never would've expected defining the creation of energy would correlate to "poor lil fishy" by someone/anyone who read the article with an illuminated screen thanks to an energized phone battery. 🤷🏼

Before you know it they'll be censoring comedy.

There's so much protocol now for "terrorism" and system attacks. It's tough to say who/what/where has the fanciest hackers in the world but I've yet to learn of a hack toward US infrastructure. Not that it's impossible but hacks we typically hear about are on reserves like oil, airplanes, events, humans. Energy grids are probably one of if not the most protected asset in the states. But if.

Directing energy where it isn't supposed to go will destroy everything in its path. I don't think anyone could estimate the destruction but it's safe to assume not just one or two but every.skyscraper would collapse.

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Depends what I'm doing.

I'm thinking that I shouldn't ask for further clarification here. It seems like one of those "I don't want to know" situations stop here.

I'm down with letting go of electricity to a very large degree. Always good to ask what does one actually need, great place to start to cull many things. If you said choose between fish and electricity, I'd choose fish every time...but then I've had to live without all the amenities that electricity provides and know how that goes.

Before you know it they'll be censoring comedy.

That's already well entrenched and the noose keeps getting tighter.

I've yet to learn of a hack toward US infrastructure.

I think you've missed some valuable reading material, especially from a few months ago.

it's safe to assume not just one or two but every.skyscraper would collapse.

Collapse is in process, has been for some years, just on high speed now.

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Have you always been this brilliant? I should stop responding to comments and forward them to you.

I think you've missed some valuable reading material, especially from a few months ago.

I think I said something about infrastructure excluding oil reserves and airplanes, I could be wrong, I'm sure you'll let me know.

Link me some of that valuable reading material I'm missing that shows where energy came from more than one location due to an unknown terror attack that caused devastation. A remote switching error from unknown source or hijacked generation facility or something. Apparently I missed it.....

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I should stop responding to comments and forward them to you.

Nopers, you got the scopers to stoop and scoop those big ones.

Apparently I missed it.....

While you were sleeping........
There's a lot to cover and you'd check out from boredom of reading such things but maybe take a little look at that exercise that happened this summer, some kind of polygon thingee and some trial runs that took place since in your homeland. You might have to walk snake paths for those details though and not sure you're keen on that.

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Let There Be Light

There you go quoting an angry ancient Canaanite deity again. Next thing you're gonna tell me is I can use water to charge my cellphone. Christ you come up with the craziest shit sometimes.

!PIZZA

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Canaanite deity again.

Classic!

Wassup Brandt? Thanks for keeping an eye on me.

Would you believe some people don't have phones? Neither would I. Like they take cold baths and eat raw food too. As if!

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I think those are called hippies.

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The only hippies I know have a propane bbq grill. My hippie detector stinks.

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This wasn't fair to the fishes b7t on ther hand good job on the post boss @dandays

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Something's fishy.

I've yet to meet anyone who will cook for the family over an open flame and heat their shower water by candlelight.

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!ENGAGE 100
!WINE
!LUV
!PIZZA
!BEER

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You cut off the Joshua trees. I'm now questioning everything I've taught you.

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Amazing. Water has a lot more good it is used for without water supply I don't think there will something like use of electricity in anywhere in the world because water is the main keychain for electric current to circulate

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Hey wassup man?

I'm glad I was able to explain that one to you. Interesting right? One dam can power several cities, you've heard of Hoover yeah? That one energizes Las Vegas.

Thank you.

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Yeah you did explained it right. Yeah interesting it is. Seriously without the damns I don't think there will be light at all.no I haven't heard of it I'm gonna check it out now.wao!!! It's good tho

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Now that was something different to read. Interesting 🧐 as long as there’s no drought, your curling iron should be ok.

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Different and interesting eh? That dang DanDays. I'm glad you liked this one Farm-Mom. Thank you.

Even in a drought your curling iron will work, they'll generate with steam or coal or natural gas where it's peak rate around the clock.

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"From the pole at the driveway to the panel on the side of your home, through each interior wall, on the ceiling, under the counter, behind the television and everywhere else—energy. Tada! Plug in your hair dryer..."

And we all know what happens to a woman with no hair dryer, curling iron, and coffee pot right.??

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No coffee pot and you'll forget all about her, I'll get all kinda only child on you.

I had more than one person complain about dead fish on this one, I did not expect that. Boo hoo poor fishies and what about the fish? They have no idea how many fishies sacrificed their life just so they could click send.

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I LMAO at the People lemmings when they refuse to see the forest cuz the trees are in their way...

Here they are... FISHYS Lemmings...

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Off to the turbines they go.

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Someone needs to invent a gif gangster badge. I don't know how you do it. No one stands a chance.

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Check out our house guest. Willy needs a place to crash for 10 days.

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Big Awwwww... From the Pookster. Puppy Love.!!
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Sitting in the hotrod getting ready to go throw down with T-Mobile and demand my old guy 55 discount. Fuuuuuuk Meeeee I am ooooooolllllldddd....

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Interesting! Anyone with moving water, pipes and wires of conductive material can produce electricity. I remember something about magnets though. Conductive material rotating in a magnetic field produces a current in the conductive material. Am I misremembering what I learned in physics class?

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Oh for sure. There's a lot more to a generator than what I listed. Magnetics and transient voltages and diodes and resistors and stators and and and. We'd need a lot more than 1200 words to explain a generator. Or years of physics.

But the water and the force to generate and the storage doesn't change.

How's it goin Owasco? Haven't heard from you for a minute. How's the new windows?

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Windows?

I like my new/old house, and boy was that price right, but the countryside is so beautiful around here, that now I am itching to move to a really nice house closer to the edge of town, if not out of town. This house is on the densest residential street in the village. It's a very popular street on Halloween, which I did not know until costumed kids were standing a dozen deep at my front door.

The area is much happier and friendlier than the one I moved from. I like that very much. There are no health food stores, so in order to get good food I have to go directly to farms. I like that too. I regularly go on beautiful drives to get to these farms, one of my favorite pastimes.

I sang at an open mic last Wednesday, and will audition for a play tomorrow. I'm slowly rebuilding my social life. I see a lot of opportunities here, whereas my last home was in an area that had come to offer very few opportunities and a hobbled social life, because of excessive covid restrictions.

It's good here. Thanks for asking.

So why do you know so much about hydroelectric power?

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What I just read is nothing shy of an article. I saw Autumn trees and felt wind chills, got hungry and made acquaintances just by reading. That was fun.

So why do you know so much about hydroelectric power?

I'm flattered you even asked, thank you. Power in general, I engineered that stuff 22 years before reaching retirement hours. I recently went into detail about it here if you're interested. 💖

But the only stat worth mentioning, the one that requires no additional info on a resume is nobody ever got hurt on my watch.

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'And now for something completely different'

Excellent. Very educational and barely a titter but...
I learned today that the US uses 204v and not 110V as I always thought it did?

And a request if I may. Can you write about three-phase use in the home as my builder wants me to pay for a three-phase supply as we have a lot of aircons, ovens and water-heaters and I thought only industrial units used three-phase leccy for seriously heavy-duty usage?

You are so useful to know lol

Have a gorgeous weekend and as always, best wishes to your better half.

PS If you'd tagged STEM, you'd have likely got a load of loverrrly Stem tokens!

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#stem <- Did I do it right?

Good morning, wassup man? Dude anything you need, feel free to pick my brain, I'll teach you everything I know.

Homes in the US do operate at 110, they're rated for 240v. Two hots feed the home, each are 110v so it's capable of producing 240. Understand? Still single phase. <-- Single means 2. In the US our ovens, a/c units grow lights etc operate at 240.

3-phase. You must have equipment that requires it, it's not uncommon. All your industrial plants will be 3-phase, you're correct, but. Commercial a/c units will just about always be 3-phase, as will commercial ovens (commercial most things). You can get a lot more amperage out of a 3-phase system and they cycle real smooth. It's more expensive in the beginning but in the long run will be smoother, less headache and less to maintain. Does that make sense?

It isn't your home that requires it. It sounds like your equipment will not operate without it.

Really appreciate your support Nathen, thank you.

We're fostering another puppy right now, day 2 today, 8 days to go. My point is she forgets all about her disease when someone like Willy needs a place to crash.

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You're a star, thank you. You basically backed up what my new architect said. All the household stuff is standard but most Thais don't have ovens, electric hot water systems and 5 split unit ACs so they are getting the electric co to supply us with 3 phase simply because we may need high amperage AND the standard supply is extremely dirty and it will save getting stuff zapped as does happen regularly here from poor mains.

The cost was surprisingly only slightly more as she said we'd run 3 phase into a special consumer unit then tap and split 415v to provide single phase final circuits.

In the long run it should actually save us money due to the lack of blown appliances!

A sparky in the UK also said it's quite common in bigger houses in the UK too but it means there will be no future Nathan DIY!

Electrical standards here are dreadful so I'm still a bit worried about it however but not as much as the installation engineer I guess!

It'll be reet!

Thanks again. The pup is gorgeous, you'd love it here sat outside the 7/11s playing with the appreciative street dogs :-)

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(Nuther long one... oops!)

My pleasure, any time.

..you'd love it here sat outside the 7/11s playing with the appreciative street dogs :-)

I should reconsider being so honest sometimes, a few more puppy pics and ima be labeled soft!

Of course, "bigger houses," same here. If the home has multiple ac units or maybe a big fancy pool, machine shop out back, etc etc they will require 3-phase.

1 milliamp can kill you dude (.0001 = dead, goodbye family). Your toilet light is probably 0.5-1 amps for relativity—.0001. A/C is no joke, let the pros do that stuff. DC is the one you'll just wish you're dead, blows off limbs and stuff but a/c does not forgive. <-- Repeat.

That was my job for 22 years—make sure everyone went home the way they showed up.

Clean energy, tapping, fresh, all key words. Imagine water, with me? Say you want to push 100 gallons through two hoses. It'll work, of course it will, no problem. But eventually those two hoses will weaken, water gets dirty, pressure lowers, etc. They need repaired. Now if you have the same gallons and a third route... see what I mean? Smoother, cleaner, longevity. 👍🏿

Sounds like you have 3-phase options readily accessible. That's convenient. Here, it's uncommon so the homeowner would have to purchase a single phase to 3-phase transformer, that's where the bill gets painful. I wouldn't even know the price dude, probably 5-10k.

Ok I've written enough now. Bla bla bla bla have a great bla bla weekend!

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Is that you up on the giant steel tower? Wild shit man!

I read this the other day but forgot to comment it seems! This looks awesome. I think it’s a shame that we can’t go into these buildings and awe at them! Have some damn security guards around or some shit. It’s cool to look at it all!

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What in the heck is up my man? I'm glad you liked this one, thanks for checking it out.

No hell no that's not me! Linemen are a different breed. I'm the dude on the ground who makes sure everyone goes home the same way they showed up.

You ever been to Hoover out at Lake Mead, powering up Las Vegas? I remember driving across that one, going down inside and all that. Not anymore.

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